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Thank you for our HKICX new york reporter - Jason :lol:

btw, did you ask if there are intended to make ZV SWC?

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Thank you for our HKICX new york reporter - Jason :lol:

btw, did you ask if there are intended to make ZV SWC?


i think the words from Zeiss salesman has given you some hints...

"... a V-series body has more than 600 movable parts (while H-series only has 200 something). It is very expensive to establish a production line to produce V-series bodies, BUT they hope that someone else would produce it. He continued to say, “There is always a possibility.”..."

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Thanks so much for the report!

As what I had told you..........the Expo would be the second venue after Photokina for the new products from Zeiss to be exhibited around the world (same as the ZM series two years ago in 2004), and probably be the first time in North America!

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Seem like you had a good day in the Expo wor! :wink:

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...........because a V-series body has more than 600 movable parts (while H-series only has 200 something). It is very expensive to establish a production line to produce V-series bodies..........


This probably explain why the 200/2000 series is the top of the line in V-series.........even much more complicated!

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i wonder, if one day Cosina manufacturs V-series camera bodies, even down to the "simpliest" 500-series (probably, the front panel will replace from "Hasselblad" to "Zeiss Ikon"), how people will think about that? especially to the brand confidence?

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I would say manufacture is not the word, more like re-manufacture and servicing. There were a lot of V series body around and likely will be able to be around for a long time. The 503 is pretty much all paid for from R&D point of view,and its not like Hasselblad need to do anything but just keep a small batch to batch production going on.

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jason.lau 寫:
Besides, I forgot to mention. I was confirmed by Zeiss that the Sony ZA lenses would use exactly the same lens formulae and glasses as ZF, but they are in AF.

Actuallly I found it a little bit suspicious. Is it possible?
But it is what they told me.

What's the meaning of "same lens formulae"? I think the lens design is different. Do you mean the raw materials?

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Yes. That's why Zeiss is reluctant to do the "dirty job" of making the camera bodies. But the problem is we do not know what is the intention of Hasselblad. Even though the production cost of 503 would be relatively low now for Hasselblad, nonetheless Hasseblad may still want to kill V-series in favour of H-series. I saw a tendancy that Hasselblad is more less pushing their customers towards the H system.


Wouldn't you do the same if you are Hasselblad ...... :twisted:

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fomula mean, sonnar, planar, tessar etc


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Besides, I forgot to mention. I was confirmed by Zeiss that the Sony ZA lenses would use exactly the same lens formulae and glasses as ZF, but they are in AF.

Actuallly I found it a little bit suspicious. Is it possible?
But it is what they told me.

What's the meaning of "same lens formulae"? I think the lens design is different. Do you mean the raw materials?


Well there is but one lens that are the same focal length and speed, the 85/1.4, and from published material from both Sony and Zeiss /Cosina , they are well quite different ...

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While they are both Planar / Dopuble Gauss, there is basic difference in there AFAICT ...

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Besides, I forgot to mention. I was confirmed by Zeiss that the Sony ZA lenses would use exactly the same lens formulae and glasses as ZF, but they are in AF.

Actuallly I found it a little bit suspicious. Is it possible?
But it is what they told me.

What's the meaning of "same lens formulae"? I think the lens design is different. Do you mean the raw materials?


That is exactly what I think too. I wonder any of you guys can check the graph to confirm that. But Zeiss told me that they are same design, same material. Just one for Nikon, and for Sony, and AF of course.

But I'm not sure if they gave me the wrong information for this.


haha..............that means there would be a ZF Sonnar 135/1.8?

or even a ZF Vario-Sonnar 16-80 and then I can live happily with the S5 Pro! :lol:

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Really thanks for your report, special agent Lau! :o

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fomula mean, sonnar, planar, tessar etc

I think in this circumstances, you may have made the right guess.

Just wonder wether the statement "ZA lenses would use exactly the same lens formulae and glasses as ZF..." is vice versa or not.........

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as so many movable parts in V-series body
will it be the case.......

a V-series (say SWC) body "made in China"
a Lens-housing and assembly "made in Japan"
final QC and calibration "made in Germany"

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