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The DC I am currently using are TVSD and a Sony older model, and for DSLR I am using are D40 and S5 pro. Would like to buy a DC to replace an older one. Price range around HK$3000-3800. Mostly, take landscape, and portait. Also, if it can take "smooth" movie would be great.

This prosumer DC is ideal for daily usage, handy to use with good quality. I do understand for the price and the size I ask for cannot not be compared with DSLR. Also, it is the back up for my film SLR when I go to trip/vacation.

See some commets from here and other forums, and tried both. I still cannot make up my mind. Any comments between LX3 and G10? Or any other suggestions? Or any replacement for TVSD?

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would you consider Fujifilm F200Fd?

Of course, LX3 is also a very good choice.

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for real, the question to ask is

1. do you shoot RAW, or need RAW in these DC
2. how wide is wide enough for you
3. is IS/VR a must
4. is high ISO needed
5. is manual control needed
6. How much and what kind of Coverage ( lens ) really are needed

to be fair, only after you honestly gauge these to yourself, then you might decide on the matter ...

for a start, I simply do not like the way most of these late generation DC having so much MP, by that I do not mean the MP is bad, its just that they had to sacrifice too much for the MP. The G10 is no exception. The LX3 is only marginally better.

I too want a good compact DC, but after much debate and test, and trying them out, I simply fail to found one that work , so I settle for the Olympus E420 for that is about the slimmest of all DSLR, and a couple of lens for that ...

The Sigma DP1 was , on paper , an enticing alternative, but simply put the camera part of the DP1 is awful, and the Foveon sensor's imaging is still lacking once over ISO 100 ..

For now, there is simply no DC that I can consider serious and quality enough for the need , although if one can keep to base ISO, shoot JPEG only then there is quite a few OK alternatives ( say the G10 or Nikon P6000 )

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lofan 寫:
would you consider Fujifilm F200Fd?

Of course, LX3 is also a very good choice.


Do you want to buy, or do you have the one to sell?
F200Fd is good, besides the aperture is not large enough and not wide enough....


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FR 寫:
for real, the question to ask is

1. do you shoot RAW, or need RAW in these DC
2. how wide is wide enough for you
3. is IS/VR a must
4. is high ISO needed
5. is manual control needed
6. How much and what kind of Coverage ( lens ) really are needed

to be fair, only after you honestly gauge these to yourself, then you might decide on the matter ...

for a start, I simply do not like the way most of these late generation DC having so much MP, by that I do not mean the MP is bad, its just that they had to sacrifice too much for the MP. The G10 is no exception. The LX3 is only marginally better.

I too want a good compact DC, but after much debate and test, and trying them out, I simply fail to found one that work , so I settle for the Olympus E420 for that is about the slimmest of all DSLR, and a couple of lens for that ...

The Sigma DP1 was , on paper , an enticing alternative, but simply put the camera part of the DP1 is awful, and the Foveon sensor's imaging is still lacking once over ISO 100 ..

For now, there is simply no DC that I can consider serious and quality enough for the need , although if one can keep to base ISO, shoot JPEG only then there is quite a few OK alternatives ( say the G10 or Nikon P6000 )


Thanks for FR dada to provide me the guideline to re-define what I exactly look for..... Thanks a lot.


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G10!

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joe 寫:
G10!


Did you own one?
Any reasons you suggest this than others? Thanks.


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G10 最強
LX3 最多野玩
F200EXR 最平

我會選F200EXR
買lx3 or G10 不如買DSLR
除非閣下諗住買部機仔頂部DSLR

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G10!


Did you own one?
Any reasons you suggest this than others? Thanks.


係!
一出試完機就買咗.
因為之前部GRD 成日HANG 機, 後來睇咗好多部唔同牌子嘅同級機種, 但都唔係咁滿意, 大多數都係一上ISO200-400 就己經有明顯NOISE, 再唔係就反應慢(DC 反應慢好唔放便), 再唔係就係SETTING 唔夠!

試來試去最後只有G10 啱我! 用咗咁耐, 只係有兩個COMMENT, 1) 如果部機造薄啲就好啦! 2) 影MOVIE 如果有直接按鈕( 不過市面上好似無部機有), 因為影MOVIE 最方便就係一按就SHIFT 去影, 影完一按就SHIFT 番去AV/TV MODE 之類就最方便, 唔使成日將嗰DIAL 轉嚟轉去咁!

其它都無乜唔滿意嘅地方, 包括照片嘅QUALITY!

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kkshum 寫:
Do you want to buy, or do you have the one to sell?
F200Fd is good, besides the aperture is not large enough and not wide enough....


我十五十六緊買唔買,因為次次買完 d 機仔返黎都唔滿意(我成日都同 contax t3 d 相比),所以買得快又賣得快,搵錢黎 side

其實 28mm 好夠 wide ga la ,有 d 情況下我會嫌佢 wide Y過頭添,。反而近年比較鍾意 35mm,但一二三笑陣時, 28mm 始終有佢方便之處

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kkshum 寫:
Do you want to buy, or do you have the one to sell?
F200Fd is good, besides the aperture is not large enough and not wide enough....


我十五十六緊買唔買,因為次次買完 d 機仔返黎都唔滿意(我成日都同 contax t3 d 相比),所以買得快又賣得快,搵錢黎 side

其實 28mm 好夠 wide ga la ,有 d 情況下我會嫌佢 wide Y過頭添,。反而近年比較鍾意 35mm,但一二三笑陣時, 28mm 始終有佢方便之處


Thanks for your opinion. The advantage of Fuji is Super CCD and good noise control at high ISO, am I right? BTW, how much is it now? Let me find a chance go to try try sin after you suggest.

About T3, it is my second Contax camera, and the first one really impact me after I developed the photos at Tun Sing for 12"x18". Remember I showed you those photos??


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The advantage of Fuji is Super CCD and good noise control at high ISO, am I right? BTW, how much is it now? Let me find a chance go to try try sin after you suggest.


新 lee 粒 ccd 叫 super ccd exr,主要係引入左高解象、高 iso 同高 dynamic range 三種模式任君按照攝影現場情況自由或自動選擇。

當然啦,就算塊 ccd 幾好都好,佢枝爛鬼 5x zoom 就始終唔好太大期待啦

其實我唔記得你 d T3 相啦,不過當然我都試過將 d T3 相放大,仲要係當年光學機出,真係驚為天人!而家我出清哂 d contax ,唯一留返就係部 T3,要黎放神台

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I will not consider F200 because it cannot shoot RAW.

but G10 and LX3 are decent choice. i suggest you buy both from B&H and return one :lol: :lol:


果陣買部 dp1 返黎見 jpeg 真係唔太得,轉下影 raw 睇黎係好一 d ,不過因為下下都要自己搞,冇幾個星期已經轉返 jpeg,再冇幾耐賣埋添啦 ^_^

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jason.lau 寫:
I will not consider F200 because it cannot shoot RAW.

but G10 and LX3 are decent choice. i suggest you buy both from B&H and return one :lol: :lol:


No, no. Buy both and return both....
Did you remember the 13 o / o o f f ma :lol: :lol:


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kkshum 寫:
The advantage of Fuji is Super CCD and good noise control at high ISO, am I right? BTW, how much is it now? Let me find a chance go to try try sin after you suggest.


新 lee 粒 ccd 叫 super ccd exr,主要係引入左高解象、高 iso 同高 dynamic range 三種模式任君按照攝影現場情況自由或自動選擇。

當然啦,就算塊 ccd 幾好都好,佢枝爛鬼 5x zoom 就始終唔好太大期待啦

其實我唔記得你 d T3 相啦,不過當然我都試過將 d T3 相放大,仲要係當年光學機出,真係驚為天人!而家我出清哂 d contax ,唯一留返就係部 T3,要黎放神台


In fact, the Fuji's lenses are not that bad. Hassy's digital and Xpan and Xpan 2 are using Fujino. And the tone is cooler than regular lenses.

Ask a question on other thread here: does Tun Sing still honor the discount for Contax Club member? I would like to enlarge some photos from my T3. Any commiitee can ask? Thanks in advance. Ching


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