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- Ricoh GXR - ( English )

- Ricoh GXR - ( Japanese )

- Ricoh Product Page ( Japanese ) -

Well , that's what it is , interesting concept and it would be very interesting to see what kind of lens/sensor combo might happen to be , and one more thing, info seems to indicate the different lens had different sensor ( even in size )

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this one is funny! I will wait for a fuji or panasonic version of the same design!

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Guess that they can always produce a module in Leica M mount, or micro 4/3 mount, or any other mount you may think of! 8)

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Its a different concept alright. at least it acknowledge that fact that you simply can't have everything in one size ( sensor ) and so. And I think it tie in quite well with Ricoh's own ..

Personally I think this concept and implementation open up lots of possibility, now it await what Ricoh might do to that ..

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Well, it seems Ricoh been quite up to diversifying options ( these are concepts only )

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終於有部可以擴展嘅DC....正......如果C同N 牌又或者L M MOUNT都咁做, 呢個世界會好好多!

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I always think in the future, we could choose around different sensors for different photos to fit in a camera - just like what we had in the old film days.

Fuji sensors are famous for its skin tone and portriat, Sony sensors famous for its high contract and colours, OM sensors famous for its blue or nature photos ... some sensors good for resolution at ISO 100, other sensors have low noise at high ISO ... so if we can change the sensors according to the object and environment, like how we changed film before, it will be great!

The changing mechanism could be like how we changed our memory cards now that we can slot in a sensor?

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Fuji sensors are famous for its skin tone and portriat, Sony sensors famous for its high contract and colours, OM sensors famous for its blue or nature photos



Sorry , you mean the imaging engine right, not the sensors. Actually the sensors are not that far and different between them ( when you take away the JPEG engine and look at RAW data using the same imaging development, sensor based difference is there but those mentioned are not the case .. )

And in a Ricoh camera the JPEG engine and ASIC is that of Ricoh's , not Fuji's, not Sony, nor Olympus .. so your notion of how these as they are are not what it would come to be ..

In film days, even the notion that certain film is so and so compared to any other film would only work if we made it a fixed way of developing and printing, this is the same for sensor based imaging. I shoot digital for a long time, and as regard actual color, tone etc .. its more the development, not the sensor. All sensor nowadays give way much wider range than anything we had in film days. Its about how one used those data to image the final JPEG / Print

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I just meant sensor ... eg. Fovenon vs CMOS vs CCD etc. But absolutely correct that the image engine or in film days the "processing" part do affect the final output more than whether it is Kodak, Fuji or Afga film; yet I am thinking that assuming processing is pretty much standard, different film does have its own unique characteristics? Not to mention that it can be of different ISO? Just my wild thought ...

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I just meant sensor ... eg. Fovenon vs CMOS vs CCD etc. But absolutely correct that the image engine or in film days the "processing" part do affect the final output more than whether it is Kodak, Fuji or Afga film; yet I am thinking that assuming processing is pretty much standard, different film does have its own unique characteristics? Not to mention that it can be of different ISO? Just my wild thought ...


that concept of course is perfectly correct, and thte key point is a standardized D&P. with digital, there is no such thing as a standard D&P though .. At this moment the GXR module concept is more useful to deploy not different made of sensor, but different kind of sensors ( size, pixel pitch, type of sensor ).

The APS-C ( or even FF ) would give the quality, but then it will not be compact, those 1/1.7 or 2/3 sensor can give a compact rum for the money, and in between might be the 4/3 sensor ( kind of not good enough to be compact, but not good enough as APS-C / FF goes if really critically examined )

The motto here is not the sensor , the concept as Ricoh puts that in their PR is combination of usage/need/lens/sensor/processing . So those convenience/compact/lightweight seeker can get the S10 module but live with the small sensor and all its good and bad. Those seeking quality can use the A12 module but had to also live with the size and bulk and all its limitation. Similar thing for future modules I would say .. in a way its not the typical main stream system as one used to see it ( though it can be in the future if Ricoh really put to it, but I simply do not see Ricoh going to go all out to do that )

I think its more wishful thinking believing for different sensor as stated. Its not really that viable to say get Foveon X3F in there ( Ricoh certainly had no imaging experience with the X3F ) nor Fujifilm's Super-CCD. Unless Ricoh would be able to struck a deal with those Mfr to cater their own module and sell them cooperatively with Ricoh. Fujifilm might be alright with that, but Sigma probably not.

Instead, Specialized sensor package module is likely more the case, say low MP count, but high sensitivity low noise sensor. Very high MP, highly resolving sensor but limited ISO, together with lens that cater to those sensors.

In fact the 2 module Ricoh give , an APS-C sized and 1/1.7 sized pretty much dictate the 2 end of the spectrum in sensor size. A FF sensor might be possible but I doubt it made sense ( the lens would then need to be so big it simply don't worth it ). One had to wonder if the 4/3 and 2/3 sensor might get a chance to appear in the lineup ..

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it should be G21, but modified to M-Mount

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LoL ... the PS job pretty much illustrate how that graphic designer's lack of knowledge about camera and Leica M in specific. What's the use of the Frame preview lever on such a body when there is no coupled RF / Frame to be seen ... and a lens release button cutting into the critical mount / lockplate area ... Every year Nippon Camera's Yearbook had similar PS mesh up fantasy camera, and these few years show some intersting PS job. But PS job they are and nothing for real ....

Now if Ricoh do got to made an M mount module. it would have to had the mounting bayonet sitting way outside and above the camera body as the Module Sensor still need to be registered to the M mount and the module is much thinner, meaning the Bayonet need to jug out to be correct ...

Now if Ricoh do get Sony to give them their 24MP FF sensor, and build an M mount module, it might turn out to be the Leica Killer for real

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