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http://www.dpreview.com/previews/pentax645d/page2.asp

唔係好Appealing...........
不過個Photographer有無用腳呢?
ISO 200 用1/40s 1/50s快門!我就無咁手定了!
Sample都好似唔Sharp 唔Sharp咁!
Night shots..............hum..........
唔知係用咩CCD?Pentax?
仲要78000一套!
唔知現在EOS 1DS MK 4同D3 幾銀!
比得咁的錢我就寧願玩番135mm format..........

Pentax 話停又唔停.........會唔會步入Contax N Digital 後塵,因為推得太早而...........關門大吉!Pentax唔似OM有強大的Medical..........
Hoya都唔係好有錢,只係眼鏡片賣得好。


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比得咁的錢....


I will say if I really 比得咁的錢, then I don't mind playing with this camera system~~~~ :wink:

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1. Pentax 645 鏡於菲林年代早已不是以高解像取勝......

2. 正如菲林年代一樣, 120 format 比 135 優勝的是 tonal expression 而不是 sharpness......

如果部機 default sharpening 太多的話反而不是好事..........

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[quote="G2 Lover"]比得咁的錢我就寧願玩番135mm format..........[quote]

如果我比得起钱,实会愈玩愈大,不会玩返转头。

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如果我無Budget問題
我反然想玩部機越細越好。
好似部Aria就最好!
Full Frame 24mmx36mm就可以。
機動性對我來講好重要。
其實
Pentax 645D 44x33mm (7264x5540) 同真定645仲有距離。
EOS 1 4896x3264 不過像素對我來講真係唔重要。
但係Price Tag 係USD$10,000同USD$4614的分別
比你加支50mm f/1.4做Standard都平成倍!
但係咪真係勁咁多呢?
1仔絕對唔比645差,特別係高ISO
不過Pentax 645D個CCD好似係Kodak.......我比較Like........


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Humbly I say its a very faulted logic to compare this way. Just as a form factor is being made to cater to certain need and market. Trying to ask it to do something else and thinking it for that is of course not going to made any logic, but then that is vice versa ...

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個人感覺:

1. Pentax 645 鏡於菲林年代早已不是以高解像取勝......

2. 正如菲林年代一樣, 120 format 比 135 優勝的是 tonal expression 而不是 sharpness......



Very agree and would it be something like the difference between Contax and Leica? :wink:

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G2 Lover 寫:
如果我無Budget問題
我反然想玩部機越細越好。
好似部Aria就最好!
Full Frame 24mmx36mm就可以。
機動性對我來講好重要。
其實
Pentax 645D 44x33mm (7264x5540) 同真定645仲有距離。
EOS 1 4896x3264 不過像素對我來講真係唔重要。
但係Price Tag 係USD$10,000同USD$4614的分別
比你加支50mm f/1.4做Standard都平成倍!
但係咪真係勁咁多呢?
1仔絕對唔比645差,特別係高ISO
不過Pentax 645D個CCD好似係Kodak.......我比較Like........


都話咗如果係無Budget問題喇~~~~~ :wink:

On the other hand, if there is a "digital Aira", really wonder what the price will be~~~~ :wink:

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Budget is not the issue here. While 8.8K might sound a lot, one had to check the price of the D3X and 1Ds-III and one would not be surprised that that price is actually competitive.

In the end, people go for[ different system, different form factor for different need and purpose. Its purely too loop sided to consider all thing in only a single set of criteria. Just as a DSLR of FF or APS-C would not satisfy the photographer demanding quality and finesse provided by a Medium Format. A Medium Format can never provide the flexibility and convenience as provided by a small format. And that goes between different form factor and systems.

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Budget is not the issue here. While 8.8K might sound a lot, one had to check the price of the D3X and 1Ds-III and one would not be surprised that that price is actually competitive.

In the end, people go for[ different system, different form factor for different need and purpose. Its purely too loop sided to consider all thing in only a single set of criteria. Just as a DSLR of FF or APS-C would not satisfy the photographer demanding quality and finesse provided by a Medium Format. A Medium Format can never provide the flexibility and convenience as provided by a small format. And that goes between different form factor and systems.


Mamiya 7 maybe a different medium system that is even lighter than 135mm DSLR if they can make it digital!......... :D


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Budget is not the issue here. While 8.8K might sound a lot, one had to check the price of the D3X and 1Ds-III and one would not be surprised that that price is actually competitive.

In the end, people go for[ different system, different form factor for different need and purpose. Its purely too loop sided to consider all thing in only a single set of criteria. Just as a DSLR of FF or APS-C would not satisfy the photographer demanding quality and finesse provided by a Medium Format. A Medium Format can never provide the flexibility and convenience as provided by a small format. And that goes between different form factor and systems.


都係果句,如果係專業攝影師,有支出有收入就話啫,
如果祗係有出無入…… :?

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Actually I saw some photos posted by Pentax 645D on the HKLFC ... pretty mpressive in fact. The commentary from users are very good too, especially the high ISO performance. Some said the 645D is even better than digital back and comparing the price, Pentax 645D stands out.

In my mind, biggest problem with ND is the whole N series failed to attract the CY lovers to start this completely new line, while it also failed to attract new digital users. So old fans did not go for it, whereas potential new fans compared ND to Nikon and Canon, and of coz ND failed badly especially at high ISO and extraordinary price plus other minor problem like short life battery.

Pentax 645D can use all old Pentax 645 lenses. Also its price is much better than Leica S2, DB etc. and so my conclusion is Pentax 645 will definitely survive as it has all the qualities as a great workhorse in studio.

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Actually I saw some photos posted by Pentax 645D on the HKLFC ... pretty mpressive in fact. The commentary from users are very good too, especially the high ISO performance. Some said the 645D is even better than digital back and comparing the price, Pentax 645D stands out.

In my mind, biggest problem with ND is the whole N series failed to attract the CY lovers to start this completely new line, while it also failed to attract new digital users. So old fans did not go for it, whereas potential new fans compared ND to Nikon and Canon, and of coz ND failed badly especially at high ISO and extraordinary price plus other minor problem like short life battery.

Pentax 645D can use all old Pentax 645 lenses. Also its price is much better than Leica S2, DB etc. and so my conclusion is Pentax 645 will definitely survive as it has all the qualities as a great workhorse in studio.


WOW! Even in Hi-ISO!
That is a good news.......I suppose those are LEAF tech instead of Kodak.
Pentax really deliver this time.......
So OM get back market by Mini-4/3 but loss to SONY and Panasonic (but they have strong making $ medical).
Pentax may turn back market share by medium format market which is what they strong at in the pass too.
GO GO GO!
Don't make the world only N and C.


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Actually I saw some photos posted by Pentax 645D on the HKLFC ... pretty mpressive in fact. The commentary from users are very good too, especially the high ISO performance. Some said the 645D is even better than digital back and comparing the price, Pentax 645D stands out.

In my mind, biggest problem with ND is the whole N series failed to attract the CY lovers to start this completely new line, while it also failed to attract new digital users. So old fans did not go for it, whereas potential new fans compared ND to Nikon and Canon, and of coz ND failed badly especially at high ISO and extraordinary price plus other minor problem like short life battery.

Pentax 645D can use all old Pentax 645 lenses. Also its price is much better than Leica S2, DB etc. and so my conclusion is Pentax 645 will definitely survive as it has all the qualities as a great workhorse in studio.


Very good analysis! 8)

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