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LoL .... :lol:

To be fair, I think its quite a mistake to simply think of the GR-Digital as another " DC 機仔 " since by all account its not. Comparing Apple to Orange will not yield any meaningful results. Its IMHO too many of fellow members had too much a set mind when taking a look at products. You cannot get the TVS-3 to perform like the T3, nor can you expect to have a digital record from a GR-Digital the same as a film record from a GR-1.

What one should really look for is whether the price/performance/features set make the camera quality photgraphic tool. Trying too much to ask any of the nes camera to perform like the old ones or to perform like something else is too much asking. Why not just invest in those that was mentioned.

As a long time GR-1 owner ( until myb baby nephew trash it :cry: ), I am always all for the though that I am buying a lens, with the camera BODY added. Instead of a cemara. In digital era. its no longer the same, because your DC/DSLR is not just the body or lens , but also your media. One had to take note on this. I've send my request for comment from a few fellow Japanese buddy who are going to have the GR-Digital, and after their 1st comment I think the GR-Digital worth every bit of its price. Now I just had to find out what's the availability here in HK and get to handle one too.

Likely I will buy one. I think it made a great synergy setup with a DSLR / film setup.

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Non....Of course i know that DC is just a DC. That's why we cannot said GR-D should be good because of GR-1. Right? Film and CCD is absolutely difference.
Value judgement is difference between you and me. Please note that i am not saying GR-D is not value at 5000. I don't care it is a leica lens or Zeiss lens, too much money for a DC is not my cup of tea. :wink:


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base on 依家個定價,剛好貼住我心目中o既上限......

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why so many people praise GR-1 film camera? I have never seen the photo quality. how does it compare to T3?

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why so many people praise GR-1 film camera? I have never seen the photo quality. how does it compare to T3?


I have not done any side by side test with T3 but the quality of GR-1 is really great. People just did not believe my photos were taken by it when I showed them the photos. 8)

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Raimondi 寫:
why so many people praise GR-1 film camera? I have never seen the photo quality. how does it compare to T3?


I have not done any side by side test with T3 but the quality of GR-1 is really great. People just did not believe my photos were taken by it when I showed them the photos. 8)


Side-by-side compare 我都未做過,但有個笑話係,
我買左 T3 之後覺得顏色好靚又好 sharp,決定唔要部 GR1,
咁放上網賣,一個已經同我 deal 過幾次的拍友要左,因為之前
deal 都幾好傾,所以電話中應承帶埋個 T3 出黎俾佢玩,
出到地鐵站我俾 GR1 同 T3 d 相佢睇,佢睇左好一段時間之後,
好唔好意思咁同我講佢睇完 T3 唔再想買 GR1,結果交易唔成 :lol: :lol: :lol:

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......但有個笑話係,
我買左 T3 之後覺得顏色好靚又好 sharp,決定唔要部 GR1,
咁放上網賣,一個已經同我 deal 過幾次的拍友要左,因為之前
deal 都幾好傾,所以電話中應承帶埋個 T3 出黎俾佢玩,
出到地鐵站我俾 GR1 同 T3 d 相佢睇,佢睇左好一段時間之後,
好唔好意思咁同我講佢睇完 T3 唔再想買 GR1,結果交易唔成 :lol: :lol: :lol:


Interesting, I wonder how one can judge if anyone is better without even having any photo taken yet ...... :?:

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......但有個笑話係,
我買左 T3 之後覺得顏色好靚又好 sharp,決定唔要部 GR1,
咁放上網賣,一個已經同我 deal 過幾次的拍友要左,因為之前
deal 都幾好傾,所以電話中應承帶埋個 T3 出黎俾佢玩,
出到地鐵站我俾 GR1 同 T3 d 相佢睇,佢睇左好一段時間之後,
好唔好意思咁同我講佢睇完 T3 唔再想買 GR1,結果交易唔成 :lol: :lol: :lol:


Interesting, I wonder how one can judge if anyone is better without even having any photo taken yet ...... :?:


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老實嚟講.....28MM 鏡 比同支35MM 鏡嘅比係無意思.

你睇吓GR1 嘅厚度...重量...SIZE...你睇吓有邊間做到......你仲想比較乜嘢!

就算係比都囉反28MM 嚟比至啱.....

所以買你(LOFAN兄) 部機個條友其實都唔係精明友......所以再推斷你之前賣機俾佢個價應該幾好吓.....RIGHT! :lol:

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IMHO judging any of our tool by only a limited amount of prints is fairly inconclusive as it does not take into account of ergonomics, usage, and phtographic result for any individuals own shooting need and style. Any of those prints can be used for refernce, but I would not made judgement based solely on such kind of informations. That, I suppose is why many of use, despite seeing plenty of pictures from various lens and cameras, still prefer to actually handle one, and test shoot one, casue there's no real data compared to your own data for your own judgement.

Joe is also correct, its pretty much numb to compare a 35mm against a 28mm. A 35mm covers only 55 degree ( horizontal ), but a 28mm covers 65. Whiles it sounds like just 10 degree, its a whopping 18.2%, that is almost 1/5.

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i never tried GR1 before, so i cannot comment too much. but on the other hand, IMO, one can still easily say which photos are better - given the difference in perspective between 28mm and 35mm, given the difference in developing, etc. Whether that was a fair or unfair comparison is another matter, but at least he can say he like which photos more. and he just made his own choice based on that comparison, that's all.

It is like you would still be able to can tell people you like apple more than orange, even comparing orange to apple may not be fair to orange. :P

haha ... i gain 1 posting too. 8)

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