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計一計!
一筒Slide要六十元,沖加CD幾平都要50,而且Quality好多時絕對同Cost唔成正比,但現實咁計,鋪租同人工咁貴收你$30 Scan一筒真係一分鐘一格的話一小時先做得兩筒,未計水電藥水真係唔多賺頭。

所以平均係約三元一張,而且唔係張張都收貨............

那麼數碼這邊呢?
一部Fullframe D3 都係$32000 你會唔會只拍萬多張呢?

以D3的價錢計拍296筒Slide約10666張相片。

這個價錢比會越來越明顯。所以菲林好快會因為市場而......

東亞都唔做中環分店了..........沖Slide都越來越唔方便。


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G2 Lover 寫:
計一計!
一筒Slide要六十元,沖加CD幾平都要50,而且Quality好多時絕對同Cost唔成正比,但現實咁計,鋪租同人工咁貴收你$30 Scan一筒真係一分鐘一格的話一小時先做得兩筒,未計水電藥水真係唔多賺頭。

所以平均係約三元一張,而且唔係張張都收貨............

那麼數碼這邊呢?
一部Fullframe D3 都係$32000 你會唔會只拍萬多張呢?

以D3的價錢計拍296筒Slide約10666張相片。

這個價錢比會越來越明顯。所以菲林好快會因為市場而......

東亞都唔做中環分店了..........沖Slide都越來越唔方便。

hahaha...you can get D3 by 32000???

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hahaha...you can get D3 by 32000???

I think it is possible after the Beijing Olympic Game.

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G2 Lover 寫:
計一計!
一筒Slide要六十元,沖加CD幾平都要50,而且Quality好多時絕對同Cost唔成正比,但現實咁計,鋪租同人工咁貴收你$30 Scan一筒真係一分鐘一格的話一小時先做得兩筒,未計水電藥水真係唔多賺頭。

所以平均係約三元一張,而且唔係張張都收貨............

那麼數碼這邊呢?
一部Fullframe D3 都係$32000 你會唔會只拍萬多張呢?

以D3的價錢計拍296筒Slide約10666張相片。

這個價錢比會越來越明顯。所以菲林好快會因為市場而......

東亞都唔做中環分店了..........沖Slide都越來越唔方便。

hahaha...you can get D3 by 32000???


Oh!我唔知市價現在幾多........但09年都得掛!
到時一筒Slide又升為例$65/roll而Processing 又會加到$55


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vincenthoy28 寫:
G2 Lover 寫:
計一計!
一筒Slide要六十元,沖加CD幾平都要50,而且Quality好多時絕對同Cost唔成正比,但現實咁計,鋪租同人工咁貴收你$30 Scan一筒真係一分鐘一格的話一小時先做得兩筒,未計水電藥水真係唔多賺頭。

所以平均係約三元一張,而且唔係張張都收貨............

那麼數碼這邊呢?
一部Fullframe D3 都係$32000 你會唔會只拍萬多張呢?

以D3的價錢計拍296筒Slide約10666張相片。

這個價錢比會越來越明顯。所以菲林好快會因為市場而......

東亞都唔做中環分店了..........沖Slide都越來越唔方便。

hahaha...you can get D3 by 32000???


Oh!我唔知市價現在幾多........但09年都得掛!
到時一筒Slide又升為例$65/roll而Processing 又會加到$55

water goods...over 40K...

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jason.lau 寫:
Actually I'm thinking about the same calculation too.

For negative / film and quality D&P. You need around HK$100 per roll.

D3 is around 36000 now. Assume that you sell D3 three years later. And by that time it only worths 12000. So your cost is 24000 for 3 years usage of D3.

24000 / 3 = 8000. That means 80 rolls a year.

For most people, they won't shoot that many.

But for me, if i really need to shoot. I have one portrait assignment each week. Each assignment I would do at least 100 shots. I only do around 30 weeks a year though. so that is 3000 shots a year. 3000/36 = 83 rolls. Just break even!! Okay. Go buy tmr!!

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For a 3-hour portrait event, I normally shoot 4 rolls (144 exposures) when using films, but >220 exposures when using digital that means I have different attitudes toward films and digital. I know it is a bad habit, but I can't change it up to this moment.

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Terry Sham 寫:
For a 3-hour portrait event, I normally shoot 4 rolls (144 exposures) when using films, but >220 exposures when using digital that means I have different attitudes toward films and digital. I know it is a bad habit, but I can't change it up to this moment.

I think that is the one of common problem on a bad habit for using digital - shoot without thinking. Since the running cost is low in compare with film, people will easily press the shutter without thinking seriously. I do have same problem actually.

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jason.lau 寫:
Actually I'm thinking about the same calculation too.

For negative / film and quality D&P. You need around HK$100 per roll.

D3 is around 36000 now. Assume that you sell D3 three years later. And by that time it only worths 12000. So your cost is 24000 for 3 years usage of D3.

24000 / 3 = 8000. That means 80 rolls a year.

For most people, they won't shoot that many.

But for me, if i really need to shoot. I have one portrait assignment each week. Each assignment I would do at least 100 shots. I only do around 30 weeks a year though. so that is 3000 shots a year. 3000/36 = 83 rolls. Just break even!! Okay. Go buy tmr!!


o甘計法..........即刻買部 D60 仲有錢賺添啦........

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jason.lau 寫:
Actually I'm thinking about the same calculation too.

For negative / film and quality D&P. You need around HK$100 per roll.

D3 is around 36000 now. Assume that you sell D3 three years later. And by that time it only worths 12000. So your cost is 24000 for 3 years usage of D3.

24000 / 3 = 8000. That means 80 rolls a year.

For most people, they won't shoot that many.

But for me, if i really need to shoot. I have one portrait assignment each week. Each assignment I would do at least 100 shots. I only do around 30 weeks a year though. so that is 3000 shots a year. 3000/36 = 83 rolls. Just break even!! Okay. Go buy tmr!!


o甘計法..........即刻買部 D60 仲有錢賺添啦........

呢個計算方法絕對係說服自己買DSLR or Digital Back的最佳藉口, 萬試萬靈, 買得開心, 用得放心. :wink:

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jason.lau 寫:
Actually I'm thinking about the same calculation too.

For negative / film and quality D&P. You need around HK$100 per roll.

D3 is around 36000 now. Assume that you sell D3 three years later. And by that time it only worths 12000. So your cost is 24000 for 3 years usage of D3.

24000 / 3 = 8000. That means 80 rolls a year.

For most people, they won't shoot that many.

But for me, if i really need to shoot. I have one portrait assignment each week. Each assignment I would do at least 100 shots. I only do around 30 weeks a year though. so that is 3000 shots a year. 3000/36 = 83 rolls. Just break even!! Okay. Go buy tmr!!


o甘計法..........即刻買部 D60 仲有錢賺添啦........


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IMHO, placing the cost of digitizing the slide vs a DSLR is in itself a faulted logic. If one is aiming to shoot for a result and that can be given either film or digital, then why the hell use film. A top to mid range or even entry level DSLR can equally give the result in and among today's technology.

Using film is very much , as today are, an artistic choice instead of much technical one. On that then, the issue of digitizing it is very much like old wet darkroom. A real quality digitization of any film ( be it slide or neg ) would require time and effort, and in fact if one tally the cost. It would look more like $50.00 per frame ( care to know how much time is needed to prepare the film for scan, and then how long a multi-sampling scan would take in term of machine and personal's time ).

Today in Hong Kong, the cost of such as D&P and scan is very much artificially kept low by this being subsidized by other service in the lab and where the scan is just put at almost minimal Auto setting ( one reason why people keep saying they cannot get good scan from lab ). The reality is that price simply cannot sustain a business as Quality Scan Service.

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IMHO, placing the cost of digitizing the slide vs a DSLR is in itself a faulted logic. If one is aiming to shoot for a result and that can be given either film or digital, then why the hell use film. A top to mid range or even entry level DSLR can equally give the result in and among today's technology.

Using film is very much , as today are, an artistic choice instead of much technical one. On that then, the issue of digitizing it is very much like old wet darkroom. A real quality digitization of any film ( be it slide or neg ) would require time and effort, and in fact if one tally the cost. It would look more like $50.00 per frame ( care to know how much time is needed to prepare the film for scan, and then how long a multi-sampling scan would take in term of machine and personal's time ).

Today in Hong Kong, the cost of such as D&P and scan is very much artificially kept low by this being subsidized by other service in the lab and where the scan is just put at almost minimal Auto setting ( one reason why people keep saying they cannot get good scan from lab ). The reality is that price simply cannot sustain a business as Quality Scan Service.


My point is D3 or EOS 5 is by far the only DSLRs that could truely compare with traditional 135mm film body. As it can use same lens on a FULL FRAME CCD. I know what magic you can do on Digital darkroom (same to physical darkroom for film). ALL those 1.6x dsrl to me are meaningless as they do not actually produce same image as on film in particular to the WIDE extreme.

In fact there are never an apple to a orange exactly the same. But I found it very meaningful to compare to TOP notch quality of 135mm film to DSLR on FULL FRAME. (I MEAN I cannot agree mid-range DSLR can produce the same results as in film - that is not a fair game for a 1.6x dslr for sure. Of course 1.6x DSLR can produce almost equal qualtiy as to FILM but LIMITED by the 1.6x). The ANGLE OF VIEW is a concern!


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I shoot film because it is fun to use.
I shoot digital because it is fun to use.

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小弟路過!

D3用電雖然唔多,不過,同部FM2比就多了一筆電費. :D

PS: I started to get the ZF lens, and once I got three ZF lens I will get a digital body as well. (D300 or D?)唔知幾時先可以買到想要的ZF lens.

I enjoy shooting with films while I enjoy shooting with digital, too.

For slide, develop at home is okay ka and fun to enjoy!


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