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Contrast 已經 tune 到最盡但係都係覺得到喉唔到肺

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of course, Contrast setting on JPEG in camera is just stretching or limiting the Black point and white point, they do little if none on the tone curve .... I keep saying that again and again, digital is different, it amount to placing the darkroom back into the photographer and that mean the photographer need to actually go about controlling that part and that mean typically shoot RAW and made up your own development / Post exposure processing in the computer, not the camera.

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of course, Contrast setting on JPEG in camera is just stretching or limiting the Black point and white point, they do little if none on the tone curve .... I keep saying that again and again, digital is different, it amount to placing the darkroom back into the photographer and that mean the photographer need to actually go about controlling that part and that mean typically shoot RAW and made up your own development / Post exposure processing in the computer, not the camera.


of course, I keep saying that again and again, digital is supposed to be instant noodle, if it can't be ready for eating in 3 minute, why should it exist in first place?

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Do it yourself for your best fit... NO tailor made for only one person in such large market... so some advanced DSLR allow you to customize the curve. So u can "tune" the curve in the camera s/w level and get your instant noodles, right?


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Do it yourself for your best fit... NO tailor made for only one person in such large market... so some advanced DSLR allow you to customize the curve. So u can "tune" the curve in the camera s/w level and get your instant noodles, right?


我就係話拉到最盡都只係咁,完全到喉唔到肺 lor :lol:

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That's because you guys are holding the wrong idea. while you guys might want instant result, the fact is these are not made for that. What you guys need are Polaroid

And on in camera JPEG B&W, one cannot just expect the camera to do anything else except giving you the such as these are really a reflection of actual scene. Just as people keep preferring more saturated vivid color. B&W photographer seems always intend on pushing the tonal range to unrealistic extreme.

Even in film, such result are to be expected as there really is not such extreme in most case in real life and most scene in B&W are just well plain gray and flat.

If you guys even shoot film and do darkroom ( densitometry ) mand shoot digital B&W using a grey scale ( test wedge ) you guys would understand that what these camera does is just faithfully reproducing the tonal range. Now whether that is what you guys like or not is another matter. One reason why even in camera need various tone curve setting

And further to that on a Nikon or Canon of todays, one really should load their own setting into the Camera via the Picture Control or Picture Style

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我就係話拉到最盡都只係咁,完全到喉唔到肺 lor :lol:



What you set is the contrast, not the tone curve ... you would need to go into your computer and use Nikon's Picture control and come up with your own set of how image are to be processed ( and that go for each and every different need )

, those setting need then be uploaded to the camera and use likewise

Still, shooting RAW and develop is still a better choice, just as film do

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