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想請問邊款ISO100 (ISO 50/64/160) 負片微粒最幼細? Reala 一直都用, 但係放大d...都ok. Afga Ultra 100直情慘不忍睹 :(

想知道大家經驗, 我通常用160VC, Ultra 100, Reala.

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想請問邊款ISO100 (ISO 50/64/160) 負片微粒最幼細? Reala 一直都用, 但係放大d...都ok. Afga Ultra 100直情慘不忍睹 :(

想知道大家經驗, 我通常用160VC, Ultra 100, Reala.

請指教下丫?! :)

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好似唔多見過有幾多隻135彩色負片放相幼過REALA
(AGFA PORTRAIT 160放大相,都係唔太幼,色OK)

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Reala 真係幾好架喇...

唉...唔通係自己要求過份?! :oops: :oops:

Kodak負片真係無咩邊隻得?! HD200又唔係好合口味...160VC又好似粗dd咁... :?

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To my experience, reala is the finest gain film I ever use. One techinque is you have to "slighty" over explore to make the gain more refine. Under slightly over exp, I find no problem to enlarge the film to over 20x30 photo. :wink:

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To my experience, reala is the finest gain film I ever use. One techinque is you have to "slighty" over explore to make the gain more refine. Under slightly over exp, I find no problem to enlarge the film to over 20x30 photo. :wink:


有錢人即係有錢人,我成世仔最大都只係放到 12R :oops: :cry: :lol:

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下? 要slightly over-expose? :shock:

但係最大問題係我成日都特登under-expose少少... :( 咁咪無得傾...?! :?

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To my experience, reala is the finest gain film I ever use. One techinque is you have to "slighty" over explore to make the gain more refine. Under slightly over exp, I find no problem to enlarge the film to over 20x30 photo. :wink:


有錢人即係有錢人,我成世仔最大都只係放到 12R :oops: :cry: :lol:


Cher, you did try ar Koo's 15R enlargement when he is in Yet Fung? :P

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I have different experience. I surmon that the reason why people start having trouble with Enlargement had been how the Film is being enlarged. With today's lab. the Film is scanned via inout which correlate to only a max of roughly 6.8 MP count, and coupled with the Lab's default ( over contrasy over sharpening and no run through grain normalization ) imaging the print run will not look good with anything beyond 10X12 which is about borderline print for visual inspection ( that is taken at 240 DPI run for the photo printer )

I have taken Agfa 100 Ultra, Reala, and even ISO 400 NPH and print to 20X30 with no apparent grain problem. But the key question is you have to do the input right. There is only 2 wat to do it

1. tradition wet darkroom enlarging, this is not avbailable commercially and one must do it by themselves now

2. PRO Lab or commercial lab's grand size print are all digital output using Durst or lightjet etc... and to facilitate proper image, one must provide a file in their sRGB color space and scanned at high resolution with multiple sampling and grain harmonization and with enough resolution to at least give 240 DPI and better be at denser one.

If you guy should take a few moment and goto the lab's equipment site and check the equipment spec. then you will realize that the key reason, as I put it here, is not the film anymore. Its the scanning input.

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1. tradition wet darkroom enlarging, this is not avbailable commercially and one must do it by themselves now


I think this kind of service is still available in HK......

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Wow :shock:

Actually you may be right at the professional point of view, but what i really want is : the best possible that i could have with limited factor (standard develop & enlargement in standard shops). So, would film be a major factor then? :? Since we all have Contax, so hardware won't be a problem~ 8) :wink:

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Wow :shock:

Actually you may be right at the professional point of view, but what i really want is : the best possible that i could have with limited factor (standard develop & enlargement in standard shops). So, would film be a major factor then? :? Since we all have Contax, so hardware won't be a problem~ 8) :wink:

Just my idea, to get a good quality of result, I would say:
1. Correct Exp: 30%
2. Lens Quality: 25%
3. Film: 10%
4. Development: 5%
5. Printing: 30%

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Agreed~!

but what i can control is 2 & 3 only.... :oops: cos that's what money can buy...hehe :oops: :oops:

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I have tried using Fuji Superia 400 to make 16x20 inches print out (by myself)..... actually, the grain is really okay small enough wor provided that the exposure of the negative was correct. 8)

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1. tradition wet darkroom enlarging, this is not avbailable commercially and one must do it by themselves now


I think this kind of service is still available in HK......


What I mean is there is no Print service of this type. Of course you can rent a darkroom and Do your own print. At least I am not awrae of any Lab print service utilizing this mean of print making any more. Only Small personal workshop might have them

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灣仔有間出名晒沙龍的專業lab!
是用傳統器材, 完全無數碼的!
我一向用開fuji superia 100而已, 晒開16x20都無問題!


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